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Secret Service says Obama’s “Kill Him” allegation is unfounded
October 18, 2008, 3:44 pm
Filed under: Democrats, McCain, Media Bias, Obama, Republicans, Sarah Palin | Tags: , , ,

Perhaps the bigest lie Obama told during the last debate was when he said many cried “Kill him” at a Palin rally.

As reported by Timesleader.com,

The agent in charge of the Secret Service field office in Scranton said allegations that someone yelled “kill him” when presidential hopeful Barack Obama’s name was mentioned during Tuesday’s Sarah Palin rally are unfounded.

So in other words, when Obama lied about this accusation he was trying to gain sympathy votes and make McCain voters look like racists. — Well, it didn’t work. Obama has been exposed as the lying political Washington insider that he is.

News organizations including ABC, The Associated Press, The Washington Monthly and MSNBC’s Countdown with Keith Olbermann reported the claim, with most attributing the allegations to the Times-Tribune story.

Well, this is no surprise, is it? It is only natural that the left wing pundits in the Associated Press and MSNBC repeat the Obama lies as if they were gospel and thus only justifying the suspicion that the media has a pro-Obama left-wing bias.

Slavoski said more than 20 non-security agents were interviewed Wednesday, from news media to ordinary citizens in attendance at the rally for the Republican vice presidential candidate held at the Riverfront Sports Complex. He said Singleton was the only one to say he heard someone yell “kill him.”

“We have yet to find someone to back up the story,” Slavoski said. “We had people all over and we have yet to find anyone who said they heard it.”

There is no basis, but apparently as far as the Marxist media is concerned, Obama’s saying so makes it so.

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Uh… so I guess the videos shown on FoxNews, CNN, MSNBC, CBS, ABC and NBC are “unfounded”- or fake- too?

Riiight.

What about the videos showing McCain/Palin supporters yelling “Off with his head!”.

Typical GOP b.s.- if you can’t get the public at large to agree with you that violent death threats at political rallies are no big deal, go with plan b-

Pretend like everyone just made the shit up.

Ridiculous- so much so that it’s actually laughable.

Obama/Biden ’08

Comment by chaze77

To chaze77

If you are going to reference Videos, then link them.

IF they even existed then the Secret Service would not have concluded the claim was unfounded.

This is their conclussion, not mine. And the reason they reached it was they found no confirmaion.

The one time people did shout “Kill him” it wasn’t even directed at Obama.

Now I’m quoting “The “Kill him!” phrase was originally reported by the Washingon Post — AND IT WAS CLEARLY YELLED ABOUT WILLIAM AYERS AND NOT BARACK OBAMA.”

And here’s the link: http://www.patterico.com/2008/10/14/nobody-yelled-kill-him-about-obama-at-a-mccain-or-palin-rally/

So, nice try, but you’re citations, if they even exist at all, twisted the facts.

Comment by krissmith777

My fault- you’re correct- I should have cited my sources!

Here you go…

And…

Comment by chaze77

There are two major problems with those two videos.

1) I watched the first one twice and couldn’t even hear a single hint of “Kill him” despite having that as part of the title.

2) As for the second one, I already mentioned in this post post that MSNBC repeated that claim.

The secret service reported, “News organizations including ABC, The Associated Press, The Washington Monthly and MSNBC’s Countdown with Keith Olbermann reported the claim, with most attributing the allegations to the Times-Tribune story.”

The Secret Service concluded the media reports ARE unfounded!!!!

I already mentioned that in the post. Apparently you didn’t even read the post well enough!!!

So if all you can do is cite the reports that have been disproven, then you have nothing.

Comment by krissmith777

Naw… I read the post quite “well enough”. I just don’t think a claim has been disproven, merely because a blogger says it has.

I still believe MSNBC is more credible as a news source than the Average American Blogger- and I definitely include myself in that category as well.

Comment by chaze77

chaze77 says “Naw… I read the post quite “well enough”. I just don’t think a claim has been disproven, merely because a blogger says it has.”

A mere blogger IS NOT who has shown the statement to be false! The secret service did. And the Secret Service takes this sort of thing VERY seriously.

chazz77 says “I still believe MSNBC is more credible as a news source than the Average American Blogger- and I definitely include myself in that category as well.”

Okay. I can respect that. BUT!! But notice that MSNBC has NOT shown any confirmation on the charge. All they did was have a news anchore say “it happened” without any video clips that show the event happening. – – – Surely if it did, they would have ran it. But they didn’t. They just said it and expected us to take their word for it.

And again, as for the first video: The title of it is misleading. Even though the saying “Kill him” is in the title, it never happens in thevideo itself.

Comment by krissmith777

Here you go- another clip- this one not only shows footage of all the hateful nonsense people are screaming about Obama at rallies, but it also shows John McCain, while being interviewed, ACKNOWLEDGING the hateful comments. He states he doesn’t condone them… If it were fake, why would John McCain himself go on national television and acknowledge the words were spoken? Seems to me, if it never happened, and it were provable that it never happened, McCain could easily debunk the footage himself.

And yet… he didn’t.

Please don’t make excuses for people who are spewing hatred. It won’t go away by pretending it doesn’t exist… and that’s assuming you even care.

Comment by chaze77

chaze77 said ” If it were fake, why would John McCain himself go on national television and acknowledge the words were spoken? Seems to me, if it never happened, and it were provable that it never happened, McCain could easily debunk the footage himself.”

If you mean “Why didn’t McCain debuk it in the debate?”, then that is perfectly answerable. — The answer is that Obama was the first to make the accusation and the first time he made it was on the stage at the debate. — So at that time the Secret Service would not have made its investigation yet. So McCain would not have had the information to say “No, that didn’t happen.”

He didn’t debunk it only because he knew nothing about it until Obama shot it out. — And if someone says something you don’t know anything about then you CANNOT credibly say “Not true.”

Again, the official investigation of the Secret Service says that it never happened. And unlike MSNBC and the AP, the Secret Service has a better reputation of checking its facts.

— Since McCain was introduced to this allegation BEFORE the investigation was conducted he would have had no credible refutation. He therefore wouldn’t have had the information to say “That’s not true.”

http://www.timesleader.com/news/breakingnews/Secret_Service_says_Kill_him_allegation_unfounded_.html

So saying “McCain didn’t refute it, so it must be true” is not proof it is true. Again, he didn’t have ANY access to the information since it ONLY came out later, so therefore he could make no refutation. You are using classic circular reasoning (i.e., “Since “x” didn’t refute, “y” must be true.”) — That’s called “Logical fallacy.”

You also say “Please don’t make excuses for people who are spewing hatred. It won’t go away by pretending it doesn’t exist… and that’s assuming you even care.”

When have I made excuses for people spewing hatred? NEVER!!!

Comment by krissmith777




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